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Poster:	billydlions	Date:	August 12, 2009 04:43:32pm
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

Dont you think unions have become exactly what they were supposed to fight against? They've become so powerful that they can run a company in to the ground. It's practically impossible to fire the most incompetent employees. They want to eliminate secret ballots so that they can intimidate people to vote a certain way. I'll take my chances with a non-union job. Why? Because I will work harder than the guy next to me and deserve to be compensated for that. And if there's someone who can do a better job, then I guess I'll have to move on, but I'll take my chances.

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Poster:	johnnyonthespot	Date:	August 12, 2009 05:17:03pm
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

sure absolutely. I see incompentance being rewarded all the time. Unfortunatley the other side of the coin is some ( not all ) companies bring this on themselves too. Look at Walmart. They pretend the only way they can have cheap prices is by paying low wages and no benefits and yet the owners of the company are BILLIONAIRES several of them several times over. Or companies who are constantly cutting at the bottom but never at the top. All I'm saying is that alot of companies greed themselves into the place where workers have to organize for job security and yes it then turns into what you describe. I don't know what you do but most people can be disposed of at anytime, sold out for a dime cheaper if they decide. Their perogative sure, I just think it's s shame. Whether you hate Michael Moore or not theres a great quote in the movie the " Big One" where he asked this exec if he was a Billionaire and then he says " well couldn't you be a half a Billionaire"?

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Poster:	billydlions	Date:	August 12, 2009 06:08:49pm
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

The only problem with your logic JOTS is that they are billionaires because of stock appreciation, not from salary. Sam Walton, Bill Gates, etc probably never had salaries higher than any elite athlete. On top of that many employees became wealthy from the stock, even ones who never made more than 30-50k/yr. I dont disagree with all of your thoughts though...I do not like the pay for incompetence either. We really need to find a way to restructure corporate boards which are filled with cronies who rubber stamp everything for each other. That's where we need real change.

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Poster:	johnnyonthespot	Date:	August 12, 2009 09:54:12pm
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

I don't think my logic is flawed. If companies treat their employees good then production goes up and the feeling that they need to organize would go down. Therefore there would be no strangleholds as it should be. Everybody would win except like what I quoted the CEO's would have to settle for being half Billionaires. I'm not saying that any mandate or law to do that would ever work, I'm just saying it's a shame they don't so it on their own.

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Poster:	NoiseCollector	Date:	August 12, 2009 06:48:19pm
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Mr. Earl Retires...Not Dead, Yet.

Don't you ever talk about the band?

But seriously I work with a guy who passed out on the floor in the basement of Sam Walton's house. He is a down home shoot it and eat it kinda guy apparently...

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Poster:	bluedevil	Date:	August 12, 2009 07:59:04pm
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Huh?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPc8wg_NMf8

http://www.onlylyrics.com/hits.php?grid=5&;id=1034380
Come on children
You're acting like children
Every generation thinks
its the end of the world

And all ya fat followers
Get fit fast
Every generation thinks it's the last
thinks its the end of the world

Yes dream down a well
There's a lone heavy hell
I don't care anymore
I don't care anymore
It's a feeling we transcend
We're here at the end
I don't care anymore
I don't care anymore
You never know

Come on kids
You're acting like children
Act your age
Put back the black metals and pearls
All ya sword-swallowers pull yourselves together
Every generation thinks its the worst
Thinks it's the end of the world

It's a secret I can't tell
There's a wish down a well
I don't care anymore
I don't care anymore
It's a long heavy hell
Super-size it by 10
I don't care anymore
I don't care anymore
You never know
You never know

It's a dear to transcend
Everyone here, at the end

I don't care anymore
I don't care anymore
I don't care anymore
I don't care anymore
You never know

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Poster:	direwolf0701	Date:	August 12, 2009 08:16:59pm
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Huh?

it WILL, however, truly be the end of the world when the Cubs win a world series - man, pedro didnt look great, and they still couldnt score (much)

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Poster:	johnnyonthespot	Date:	August 12, 2009 09:47:49pm
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Huh?

Dang! That tune actually means something to me now. Thanks BD. I've only been hearing the chorus

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Poster:	bluedevil	Date:	August 12, 2009 10:22:41pm
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Huh?

And I bet you'll appreciate this news:

The Meat Puppets Confirm Tour, Red Rocks with Ween

Alternative rock trio the Meat Puppets will open its fall tour with a pair of early September co-headlining dates alongside Ween at the Pine Mountain Amphitheatre in Flagstaff, AZ and the Red Rocks Amphitheatre in Morrison, CO. The band will be touring in support of their twelfth and latest studio album Sewn Together, a follow up to their 2007 reunion album, Rise to Your Knees.

Following the two select dates with Ween, the Meat Puppets will tour heavily through the end of September with Athens, Georgia’s Dead Confederate. Dates with the Dead Confederate include September 17 at the Belly Up in San Diego, the Wonder Ballroom in Portland, Oregon on September 22, and Boulder, Colorado’s Fox Theatre for the tour closer on September 26. The Meat Puppet’s will hit the road again for a busy month of November featuring a three night run at Schubas in Chicago and six show run in the Northeast culminating at Philadelphia’s World Café on Nov 28.

More new Wilco:

I'll go, I'll go, I'll go, I'll go for you
I'll fight, I'll fight, I'll fight, I'll fight for you
I'll kill, I'll kill, I'll kill, I'll kill for you
I will, I will, I will

I'll go,I'll go, I'll go, I'll go for you
I'll fight, I'll fight, I'll fight, I'll fight for you
I'll die, I'll die, I'll die, I'll die for you
I will, I will, I will

And if I die
I'll die
I'll die alone on some
Forgotten hill
Abandoned by the mill
All my blood will
Spring and spill
I'll thrash the air and then be still

You'll wait
With the star from a dream
And know that I am gone
You'll feel it in your heart
But not for very long
You'll rise each day as planed
Your will is your command
And stand each Sunday
A hymnal steady in your hand
You'll sing to yourself
The rising-falling melody
That you could never read
Without the choirs' lead
Still alone, and lost in deep
And your soul will not be free

I will go , I will go, I will go
And in wars waters
I will wade
And I will know
If I remorse or regret
The fairness of our trade
For you to live
I took your place
A deal was made
And I was paid
And the goal as I was told
Was a place where my body could be laid
And we will steal your life
And die old
In better homes surrounded
By your peers
Without suffering or fear
Grandchildren far and near
And none will shed a tear
For the love no longer here

I'll go, I'll go, I'll go, I'll go for you
I will
I'll fight, I'll fight,I'll fight, I'll fight for you
I will, I will, I will
I'll kill, I'll kill, I'll kill, I'll kill for you
I will
I'll die, I'll die, I'll die, I'll die for you
I will, I will, I will

And if I die
I'll die
I'll die alone like Jesus
On a cross
My faith cannot by tossed
And my life will not be lost
If my love comes across

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Poster:	skies	Date:	August 13, 2009 12:11:17am
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Huh?

If this Vishnou Y saw th other day asked me to trust him,'cause he knew wher to find my gardens,I'd go with Him and never look back !

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Poster:	johnnyonthespot	Date:	August 13, 2009 08:42:35am
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Huh?

I wish Ween would come back up here. From what I hear they're too strung out to travel this far anymore